lost_in_moose ([info]lost_in_moose) wrote,
@ 2006-03-11 14:22:00
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http://www.petitiononline.com/sects/

It worries me that this kind of thing is actually allowed in the UK, i had thought it was only a problem in the US but it appears as though the IDiots have actually made significant inroads over here as well.

NB: both links copied from [info]bloggerofdeath

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[info]skellingtonjon
2006-03-11 07:38 am UTC (link)
What a surprise Blair wouldn't condemn it- he's the one who can't figure out how to stop Cherie having beh-behs, after all...

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[info]thedarkproject
2006-03-12 12:50 am UTC (link)
To be fair though, that link is pretty rubbish. It starts off with "A school in Gateshead is teaching creationism as a superior alternative to evolution in its science lessons" but then fails to present any evidence that this is actually the case.

I think what you would be more worried about, rather than a 3 year old story about a few isolated schools, is this, from 2 days ago: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4793198.stm

Personally I see nothing wrong with it but I expect you may differ. ;)

(I signed the "Faith Schools are Sect Schools" thing though.)

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[info]lost_in_moose
2006-03-13 01:25 pm UTC (link)
I'm of the opinion that there should be across all ages, classes, denominations and lessons a long sit down and talk that goes something along the lines of:

"This is science; In science the evidence currently suggests that evolution is a solid and tested theory. Which means that even if many many many new things are discovered it will still be largley correct and applicable to the future of science.

On the other hand there is Creationism and Intelligent Design. These are frigne beliefs held by some religions. They are not endorsed by the majority of religions and they are in no way, shape or form scientific and have nothing to do with science or a place in science classrooms."

Or something along those lines, because otherwise this is just going to drag on and on, and the ones who are really gonna suffer at first are the kids getting educated all of thise crap and shortly after that i'm gonna suffer because no doubt they'll be inflicting their beliefs on me. So we have stop it before then ;)

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[info]bloggerofdeath
2006-03-12 09:02 pm UTC (link)
I am less worried about those exams than I am about the ease at which the likes of Vardy can buy schools.

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[info]lost_in_moose
2006-03-13 01:08 pm UTC (link)
You mean you're worried about the kind of people who can buy schools? or the fact the public schools can be bought and the implications therein?

neither one sits particularly well with me.

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[info]ninja_andy_p
2006-03-13 02:42 am UTC (link)
Tbh, I'm not opposed to the theory of creationism as long as it is not confused with science. Creationism in RE or philosophy would be fine. It might even be useful in teaching children critical assessment!

"A school in Gateshead is teaching creationism as a superior alternative to evolution in its science lessons." is crap though.

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[info]lost_in_moose
2006-03-13 01:16 pm UTC (link)
Well Creationism is an aspect of several more devout/fundamentalist christian beliefs so yeah it deserves it's place in RE. The only danger i feel is in allowing it to have some semblence of a valid scientific theory or hypothesis by allowing it to be taught or even referred to in science lessons.

Evolution i think needs picking at in order for it to be properly taught. Actually thats how i think most science should be taught, student should constantly be kicking holes in every bit of it so they can get a good understanding of it. However singling out evolution as a problem or as a particular theory with weaknesses i think demeans it unduly and doesn't actually test or invalidate the theory it just tarnishes it by attempting to bring it down to the level of something like creationism or intelligent design.

Which are both just bullshit, to be honest without wanting to be rude :) So i think that they need seperating and that it needs stating in very loud terms with total clarity that that is the way that things are. I dont think children need confusing over a non-issue, which has been clearly seen to happen with schools which muddy the waters by doing all of this.

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